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Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne, Florida Posts: 1,423 Likes: 0 2008 Dodge Towing Capacity Well, I was hoping the 2008 3500 6.7 combo would yeild a little more combined towing capacity than last year and years before. I checked the Dodge Towing Capacity Web site, http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/TowingGuide.jsp and found that a 3500 with the 6.7 and 3:73 rear/6 speed manual tranny was only rated for 21,000 lbs combined. My 2000 Dodge is rated that high with 235hp and 460ftlbs of torque. Thats with a 3:55 rear. I was looking for a new truck with more towing capacity. The same truck with a 6 speed auto and 4:10 can only do 2000 more pounds combined for a total of 23,000 lbs. Something just don't seem right here. I'm sure the truck weights more than in previous years which might account for some loss in combined towing capacity. Besides Dodge wanting you to buy a 4500 or 5500. Anybody have any other info?? Dave 10-09-2007, 12:22 AMRegistered User
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fontana, CA Posts: 5,776 Likes: 0 Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts I don't think that's right. My '06 4x4 with 5.9L 48re and 3.73s is rated higher. I'm guessing that is a bumb number. It really doesn't matter to me. GCWR numbers are meaningless where the law is concerned. 10-09-2007, 01:56 AMRegistered User
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 5,680 Likes: 0 Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts Quote: Originally Posted by ptgarcia I don't think that's right. My '06 4x4 with 5.9L 48re and 3.73s is rated higher. I'm guessing that is a bumb number. It really doesn't matter to me. GCWR numbers are meaningless where the law is concerned. Pauly, No offense......but your GCVWR is 21,000 also. All 3rd gens with 3.73 gears are rated at that. 23,000 with 4.10s. I agree the numbers are arbitrarily low I think mainly for liability reasons to Dodge. Many members here have pulled much much more. I have grossed 26,380lbs before myself, once. I think if you have good truck/trailer brakes and are within your tires ratings you should be fine for most loads even a little over GVWR/GCVWR. 10-09-2007, 03:10 AMRegistered User
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sask, Canada Posts: 520 Likes: 0 Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts How about this: My truck is rated at 16,000# GCW, but if I had the same truck (same rear gears (3.54) and same 235hp/460tq engine) BUT a 5 speed stick, it goes to 20,000#......I gain 4000# GCWR by dropping the auto for the stick.... 10-09-2007, 10:17 AMRegistered User
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fontana, CA Posts: 5,776 Likes: 0 Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts Quote: Originally Posted by TexasCTD Pauly, No offense......but your GCVWR is 21,000 also. All 3rd gens with 3.73 gears are rated at that. 23,000 with 4.10s. I'm sure you're right. I have so many numbers stored in my head I often spit out the wrong one. 10-09-2007, 01:01 PMRegistered User
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 1,607 Likes: 0 Received 1 Like on 1 Post Keep in mind towing capacity is not just about engine....you have to consider the frame and brakes too! The service brakes are probably the biggest limiter to more GCWR, at least up the the magic 25999 limit. Tony 10-11-2007, 11:11 PMRegistered User
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts I have been told that the trucks as a whole can do more than the GCWR but the factory under rates them because of DOT and Regestration laws and regulations. They said that when the GCWR goes up it limits the type of licence available and also how much the regestraion will cost just like the cost on higher load trailers and dump trucks. This is can also be seen when you compaire the 2500 to a 3500 dule. the GCWR dosent go up anywhere as high as you would think if you follow the GCWR. With the lower numbers DOT dosent have as many regulations either. 10-13-2007, 09:58 AMRegistered User Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melbourne, Florida Posts: 1,423 Likes: 0 Quote: Originally Posted by ptgarcia I don't think that's right. My '06 4x4 with 5.9L 48re and 3.73s is rated higher. I'm guessing that is a bumb number. It really doesn't matter to me. GCWR numbers are meaningless where the law is concerned. GCWR numbers are not meaningless were insurance is concerned. If you tow a fifth wheel and you become involved in an accident, the very first thing they look at is the GCWR. The insurance company may not cover anything if your overloaded. I've seen it happen to a friend. In the commercial world down here you can tow almost anything with a 3500 as long as the tag on the truck matches the load on the truck. They don't seem to care about the load your pulling. (These are estimates, 05 3500 truck 8000lbs, three car trailer 8,000lbs, load on trailer 12,000lbs, Gross Combined 28,000lbs, Rated GCW 23,000lbs with 4:10 rear, Pin weight on truck 20% of towed load 5600lbs, Tag issued for GVW exceeding 16,500lbs) These guys have DOT numbers and million dollar liability insurance policies. It seems as long as the bumper is not draging the ground DOT leaves them alone. I feel there is no reason why a 3500 can't be rated at a combined 25,000lbs which is way under the magic 26001 pounds that requires the CDL. The 2006 Ford F350 with the Tow Boss package is rated at 26,000 combined with a 4:30 gear. Why won't Dodge rate a truck with a 4:30 gear aside from the fact you can't order a 4:30 gear, yet. Now the the 4500/5500 are showing up with 4:88's I assume a 4:30 gear will be lurking around somewhere for a 4500. I asked Dodge what was the standard gear for the 4500, NO ONE could answer that question. Dave Related TopicsThread Thread Starter Forum Last Post edonald849 Towing and Hauling / RV 3 02-22-2009 04:44 PM jbjarko Other 518 12-07-2008 10:32 AM Red3quarter Other 112 09-20-2008 11:30 PM Chrisreyn Other 111 05-17-2008 10:55 PM Chrisreyn Other 131 01-13-2008 06:30 PM How much can a RAM 3500 diesel dually tow?The 2022 Ram 3500 boasts Best-in-Class standard 410 gas horsepower 1 and a payload capacity of up to 7,680 pounds when equipped with the 6.4L HEMI® V8 engine or Best-in-Class available diesel towing capacity of 37,090 pounds 2 and 1,075 lb-ft of torque 1 when equipped with the available 6.7L High-Output Cummins® Turbo ...
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